Ditches, Drama, and a Dirty Horse Deal

In this wild ride of a story, we meet the “Mississippi Queen” and hear about her disastrous first—and only—ride on a horse she was considering buying. What started as a barrel horse opportunity turned into chaos when the horse bolted, she finally jumped into a ditch of winter water and leaving her with fractured facial bones and cracked teeth. As if that wasn’t enough, the horse trader had the nerve to trash talk her on camera while she was holding on for dear life as the horse was running away with her. Buckle up—this one’s got betrayal, bruises, and a whole lot of nerve.

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Roslyn (00:00)
Welcome to Roslyn the Pet Psychic's podcast, the show where animal intuition meets untold stories. I'm Roslyn, your host and pet psychic. Each week we dive into the unbelievable, the heartwarming and sometimes the downright haunting tales from the animal world told by the people who live them, whether it's a horse who knew too much and spilled the tea, a trainer who crossed the line or a pet with a message from beyond.

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Roslyn (01:30)
Hey, welcome guys. Welcome to Roslyn the Bat Psychic. And this is a podcast and I have a guest with me. We're going to call her the Mississippi Queen because we're going to keep it. Still keep things private. She is going to tell us about a horse trying to purchase disaster is probably the best way to call this. And she's going to tell us all about her experience.

with trying to purchase this one horse that she found on the internet and and we're just going to go from there.

Miss Mississippi Queen. the search for the horse. what made you want to start looking for a horse and how did you find this one?

Miss Mississippi (02:07)
when I started shopping for a new horse, I was stepping up from the horse that I was using that was teaching me how to barrel race. And she was older, she was like 22. And solid 5D, wasn't coming out of the 5D. So, and I was already getting to where I was overriding and outriding. So I was needing a little bit of a step up. And I knew that she was a horse broker.

that she had a lot of horses coming in and she had a lot of sale ads and stuff that she was posted on Facebook. It was around Christmas, close to Christmas. So, of course, there was like lots of horse ads and stuff. I saw her post.

Probably two months back about Romeo, which is the name of the horse, and I just looked at him. I saved the post and I didn't want to jump too fast into something and I was like, I'll come back. If he comes back up, I'll reach out to her. Well, another post come up and it was Romeo and I finally reached out to her and I messaged her. And that's whenever I let her know what I was looking for and that I wasn't looking for anything that was really fast.

He, like, wasn't trying to be in the 1D, was looking for my step up out of the 5D. Really went into detail about what I was specifically looking for. And we had conversations about Romeo. She was telling me all about him, that he was honest, he was, you know, kid-friendly, all, anything, all the bells and whistles. Anything I wanted to hear, I heard and believed.

Roslyn (03:35)
I read some of the interactions that you had had and some of the posts that she had posted on Facebook. How much gaslighting, because that is what happened. How much gaslighting did she do in the text because she deleted those texts, which I didn't even know you could do. So everything you had, I was like, oh my gosh, it's gone on your side. Yes.

Miss Mississippi (03:55)
I didn't even screenshot.

Roslyn (03:57)
Like you can't, all you can screenshot was what you had wrote. You can see her name, but you cannot see any of the messages that she had wrote. They were all.

Miss Mississippi (04:00)
Mm-hmm.

Within two minutes after the accident, that's how long it took her to delete those messages. Because once I got a little bit level and we were going down the road, I was like, ooh, our messages. Unsent, unsent, unsent.

Roslyn (04:11)
my goodness.

Well, so let me so let's back up a minute because they haven't even heard this story of what happened and why she has deleted these. But so like listen, it's a cliffhanger. This is great. Y'all keep y'all stay in tune with us. What what was she telling you in the messages before you know, you would even met him met the horse?

Miss Mississippi (04:38)
that he

was super honest. She would tell me about his personality, where he came from.

One message, which I know it was just trying to sell, was that his owners came down on his price. One of them was he was youth suitable.

It was everything. was all of the...

the bells and whistles, when I would, in my messages, when I would talk about him or I would say, well, he looks like, you know, he's good or whatever, she would respond with, he's a good boy, he's super honest, he will do anything, he listens, just all of that, literally anything I was looking for and wanted to hear, that's what she told me.

Roslyn (05:18)
And I also noticed that she really emphasized the whole great Christmas gift and she would always add so many exciting. Yeah, there was so many words attached to it and it's funny because his first picture and his like the first picture I saw that you posted and now his confirmation had changed and he. No, he didn't look.

Miss Mississippi (05:26)
he was a looker. He was beautiful.

He did not look the same. He was not

the same horse.

Roslyn (05:43)
You know you could tell that she was feeding slash possibly riding him so he got some under saddle. Did when did you did you have any red flags in the text messages and in their station? Okay, so tell me about the first day or like how the let me go look at the horse and all of that started.

Miss Mississippi (05:49)
Mm-hmm.

No.

When we agreed to meet and me try him out, we decided to meet at an arena that was close to where she was located. And that's fair, by all means. And she was a little bit late, which was fine. I'm late sometimes too. A friend that was with me, we decided to walk around the arena, just check it out. It's what we always do when we get to a new arena, we just check them out. And we...

noticed that there was a racetrack, I guess it was a practice track, on the other side of it. And we walked down to Iyat and it had a pond in the middle of it and that was neat. I'd never seen a racetrack, so it was neat. So we had scoped out the landscape ahead of time and waiting on her to get there past time and whatever. Well, when she got there,

and she was unloading the horses. She had two of them. One of them was not for me. I don't know if it was for somebody else or whatever. When she unloaded them, they were sweaty. One of them was really sweaty and one of them was just a little bit sweaty.

Roslyn (06:59)
when you're writing with

Miss Mississippi (07:00)
They had

been ran.

Roslyn (07:01)
that you were riding was really sweaty or wasn't?

Miss Mississippi (07:04)
He was a little bit sweaty. The one that she got off first that I was not there to look at was really sweaty. Like they had been ran, like put in a round pen or worked or something. That's kind of what it reminded me of.

Roslyn (07:16)
And what,

and this is Christmas. So it's cold in Mississippi. Okay.

Miss Mississippi (07:20)
Mm-hmm. Yes, it was

called We Had Jackets On. And I didn't think nothing then either. I was just like, maybe they ran from her because mines ran from me before. And I've had to chase them down and catch them. And it didn't click with me. That was another flag. When he got off the trailer,

She did allow me to get his lead rope and I tried to connect with him. I tried to talk to him a little bit and see if I could get a feel for him and I couldn't. We were blocked. There was a block. Literally, like there was a wall between us. I looked in his eyes and this is weird. I looked in his eye and there was no connection. It was just blank.

And I was like, okay, this is not the horse for me. And that's how I took it. I was just like, I don't, we're not clicking, we're not diving. And I looked at my husband and I said, he's not the one. And he said, you sure? And I said, yeah. Cause I told him that I would be able to tell whether or not the horse was the one. And I didn't know how to tell him I would know, but I just knew. And...

I said that and he said, well, what do want to do? And I said, well, I'm going to ride him just to say that I tried it. I tried. I gave him a solid chance and tried. And he said, OK. Well, she goes to tack him up and she uses all of her gear and she allows me to use my saddle. But she wanted to use her own pad and stuff and head start and I understood that. She gets him tacked up and she's

doing something. I don't know if she's messing with the other horse or what she's doing, but I weasel away and go to the warm-up pen with him. And that's where we warm up. We do a couple of circles. At this time, I'm not nearly as advanced as I am now, so I didn't know all the buttons and everything. So, he was...

honest in the aspect of I didn't know what I was doing and he was patient with me when I was trying to ask for a trot out of the walk. But he did what I asked him to and he was nice. He was not pushy, he was not spiteful in any way. He didn't seem like he was fixing to come out from underneath me and when I sat he stopped. There was no question about it.

And shortly after warm-up, she comes and she says,

Roslyn (09:36)
Did so when you said weasel away, did you not ask her if you could go ride him? Did you I just they're all gonna

Miss Mississippi (09:41)
But I think she thought I was going into the arena with him, like in the arena. There was already, the barrels weren't set up yet and I'm not one that just goes straight into the arena. Like I wanted to feel him. I was really trying to feel him and you know, let him know like, I'm not

hurt you. I'm just trying you out buddy. You might be coming on with me. But there was nothing, there was no connect.

And I don't think it was necessarily his fault.

Roslyn (10:06)
Okay, so when you, yeah, I would agree with that. I don't feel like she said, I feel like there's pieces that one, you were doing what you wanted to do and two, there should have been more set up for it. But also maybe she just trusted you. I don't know. So whenever you started to warm him up and she came out there and stopped you and what happened there?

Miss Mississippi (10:23)
Yes,

she did not want us in the warm-up area and the fencing around the warm-up area was probably about two feet tall, you know, just a little white piping fence just to outline it or whatever. She did not want us out there, acted like it was bad ground. It was sand.

Roslyn (10:43)
Yeah, well, okay, so that was a that was a red flag. But you know, I can understand how barrel horse people are very funny about footing. So I guess and also if she didn't set you up and you also didn't give her the chance because I don't want to like, you know,

Miss Mississippi (10:46)
Mm-hmm.

At the time when I went to warm him up, she went in the big arena and was setting up the barrels. Cause that... They lined up with each other, the warm up pen and the big arena. And she come out and when she came out she saw me in there and that's when she was like, don't ride in there. It's bad. It's bad ground. And I was like, no it's not. But okay. And I now do what she said and...

Roslyn (11:06)
okay.

Miss Mississippi (11:25)
I came out and then she asked me if I was ready to try him out and ride him in the arena around the barrels and I was like, yeah. And that's when it got a little scary.

Roslyn (11:34)
when you were coming from going from one arena to the other got scary.

Miss Mississippi (11:37)
No. When we swapped. When we just... When we went into the big arena and that's when everything changed.

Roslyn (11:44)
So did he feel different?

Miss Mississippi (11:46)
Honestly, no. He was just strong.

Roslyn (11:48)
So what hap- Okay. So what do you think happened that shifted to make things feel different? Was it just because it was a bigger arena and there was- or what- did she say something? How- how was it different?

Miss Mississippi (12:02)
She didn't say anything per se other than her trying to guide me through and her tone and stuff, but a lot of barrel horses absolutely love their jobs. They get really, really excited. They start prancing and dancing and all that pretty stuff. And if you're not familiar with that, it can scare you because I have one that does that and before I got used to her.

I was like, don't like it. He's dancing. But he didn't do none of that. was fine going in. I remember the first time in and I sort of stopped there because I was shaky afterwards. When we went in, we went around the barrels.

And it was fine. It wasn't perfect. It wasn't pretty or anything. I was getting the feel of him. And an honest horse is gonna allow you to make those mistakes and they're not gonna be spiteful for it. So, mind you, I'm still thinking he's this honest, kid-safe horse. He's gonna be okay with me making a mistake here or there because I have a trainer that I get lessons from once a week or twice a week, whatever. So it wasn't like I was going into this completely blind.

I had a plan. we went around the barrels and it was fine and I was able to break him back down and everything. Well, the second time we went in, I'm not sure what happened, but he, something switched and clicked from the second barrel to the third and he, like, a whole nother gear rounded around it and struck out and there was no stopping.

started pulling back from the minute we got around the third barrel and I could not get him stopped. And we were going too fast to even think about doing the one rain stop because we'd both been on the ground and no telling what would have happened then.

Roslyn (13:47)
So what happened after you come around that third barrel and you're pulling back? so tell the audience what, because this is the part of the story that's so big about this, trying this horse out to see if this is your barrel.

Miss Mississippi (13:59)
It happened

so fast. From third out.

thinking about is stopping and hanging on because I don't want to come off.

both hands on the reins and we're coming out. We come out from underneath the alleyway into the open and I see the sunshine and I'm like, you have got to get off. I hear his hoofbeats change from soft ground to hard solid ground and I'm a little bit panicky. All these thoughts are going through my head really, really rapid and fast and

In front of me, I see the same white fence that's around the practice arena. And I know that in front of it and across it is the racetrack and a pond. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So it was everything in me to shift and get him to turn the best that I could. And the minute he turns just a little bit, we line up then.

with a ditch in front of us and I remembered this ditch because we had already walked the landscape, we looked at everything. It had rained the night before or a few nights, two nights before. That ditch was full of water and in my head I'm like, he's gonna jump and we're fixing to go in the woods because there's nothing, once we get over that ditch there was nothing to stop him.

Roslyn (15:21)
this runaway horse, did you have any accidents or like did anything get hurt on you that you wish like you had a helmet or how do you feel about that now? Because I know you wear a helmet with your current horse.

Miss Mississippi (15:33)
my eye socket. It's just a scar now. but literally you can still feel the bone, like the little bump where it was fractured right there. And these front teeth, these front teeth, my front teeth, these three still need to be fixed. They have a crack going across, just going across them. These just got fixed.

That's it. I do wear a helmet occasionally. It's just with my new horse. Not all the time. When I first started out with her, yes. Any new horse that I'm not familiar with, yes. I wear a helmet. But if it is not mine personally, yeah.

Roslyn (16:13)
Okay.

Okay. All right. Just had to so you have you have incurred injuries and had to fix things because of this. Yes. That and dental is not cheap. No. So

Miss Mississippi (16:26)
No. We

Roslyn (16:29)
Thank God that you were able to get up and walk away.

Miss Mississippi (16:32)
Yes, I'm very lucky, very fortunate. I had some guardian angels with me for sure because I think about it and I remember hitting and I remember being on my hands and knees in the water and like I said, my body hit the water, my head hit the side of the ditch and then I'm in the water and I'm just kind of on my hands and knees and I'm above the water.

but I'm just kinda catching my breath a little bit and I guess because the water was so cold it kinda like brought me back to from La La Land that I was trying to sneak off to I guess. And my friend was able to get to me and I picked my hand up and I pushed my hair back like that and she goes, whoa, are you okay?

I was like, yeah, I'm fine. And she helps me up. And she's like, are you sure you're okay? And at this time, I have no idea that I'm bleeding at all. Like I don't feel anything other than the cold water. I'm in shock pretty much. I don't feel anything. And we walked back and it's a pretty good way to walk back. We walked back and that's when he was giving her the what for.

Roslyn (17:51)
whenever you came off, did he... did Romeo jump the ditch and head to the woods? Okay, so he was gonna take you with him no matter what. It didn't matter what was his way.

Miss Mississippi (17:55)
Yes.

Yes.

Regardless of, I knew I had to get off of him because he was taking me with him wherever he was going and I was not going for the ride. was like, nope. I had to physically push myself off and that was hard. I guess because you're like, you know you're not supposed to. And when I let go of the horn, I remembered pushing and just just throwing my body to get off.

no matter which way it went, I was like, the ditch is right there and I tried to line it up as best as I could.

That's what I was aiming for was that ditch full of water.

Roslyn (18:35)
Okay, well I'm glad you're okay

Miss Mississippi (18:37)
It was very wild.

Roslyn (18:39)
Do you remember? Do you know?

Miss Mississippi (18:41)
He ran back towards the road to the main entrance of the arena. She got up there before he did, so she shuts the gate. She gets him. This time, she still has not come and checked on me. When I walk back up to her, I am soaking wet and a drowned rat, and I have blood all down my face. And I don't know this. The two people that are with me, my husband and my friend, they know it. They're looking at me and their eyes are big and...

They're like, are you okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm still smiling. I'm like, I'm fine. And they're like, no, no, you're not. And I get up there too, or because my tack is on this horse. So I was like, you know what, we're not a match. Can I just have my saddle back and we'll just, this is it. Because I did not realize at the time the severity of the situation, because I just wanted to get my stuff and go. did not want to be there any longer, nothing. And...

Roslyn (19:31)
Plus you're soaking

wet.

Miss Mississippi (19:33)
Yeah,

Roslyn (19:34)
and it's December and it's cold.

Miss Mississippi (19:36)
So my husband gets my saddle and stuff and he goes off on her. Like goes off. And I don't even remember what he said. I just remember being like zoned out because like I said, I got knocked stupid. So I'm just grinning back there like, ooh, he got you. And I get in the vehicle and we're leaving and that's...

We're down the road like two minutes and that's when I realized that she deleted all the messages that she ever sent. But she never once checked on me or anything. She never came to me. And I don't... I could try to break it down to make it make sense, but I would drive myself crazy. So I left it. I left it alone and this is first time I've actually openly talked about it in a year.

Roslyn (20:21)
So after all of that happening, what red flags did you see at the beginning that should have, that may, you know, they might've been little red flags, but what are you realizing with her? And I say this more with her character because the horse just wasn't trained and she didn't like.

Miss Mississippi (20:39)
She was

aggressive verbally. She was 90 to nothing like meow and she did- did- did- did- did-

pretty much one topic to another topic but within the same topics. I don't know how... She was just real squirrely all over the place.

kind of hyper, I guess would be the word. And that was in person. And that was the first time I'd ever like actually heard her or talked to her in person. Now on the phone we weren't, it wasn't like that, like texting. It was like just little messages or whatever.

But definitely her personality. That was, and I knew it because I looked in and I was like, squirrely.

Because she was crying really hard.

guess to make the sale, but she wasn't hearing me. Like she was hearing me, but she wasn't hearing me. Because when I would say something or ask something, kind of, it was like she kind of danced around it a little bit and went off to something else. And I was just like,

Roslyn (21:35)
So she, so what I'm hearing from her as a psychic is she's coming from a place of desperation. And maybe if you had to talk to her on the phone, you could have heard that in her voice and through her actions a little better. So that would be one thing is like talk to these people in person. The other thing is, did she ever say, I'll ride him first or let me start him or let me, okay.

Miss Mississippi (21:40)
Hmm.

That's another

thing I learned. They will ride their horse first from now on.

Roslyn (22:02)
Okay, let's talk about the bit hack-a-more from hell apparatus is what I'm going to call it. Now.

Miss Mississippi (22:08)
It was

not a hack-a-more! I have one!

Roslyn (22:11)
I know. So what is it called? So the people that are horse people in here know what that is. Do you know what it's called? Okay, so I'm gonna...

Miss Mississippi (22:16)
don't even know. I just

knew what it looked like and I went and found it.

Roslyn (22:20)
I'm gonna so I'm gonna explain it from my visual point of view and then you chime in with yours and then I'm gonna tell you what I saw that I don't know if you've seen I mean maybe you haven't watched the video enough but there's something that I saw that I was like and I felt it and I was like no wonder so this bit the part that like stung me so bad is it is a thicker wire or nose band to some degree it looks kind of

Miss Mississippi (22:27)
Yeah.

Okay.

Roslyn (22:47)
interesting with yes with coiled and here's the the psychic part of that because i'm feeling how this would feel on me there's a coiled wire almost like if you could imagine a candy cane because there's that much space in between it that is a pressure point apparatus or tool is what i would say they those wires because it's not going to it's not like a hack a more that that fits flat and smooth or

Miss Mississippi (22:47)
With coiled wire.

Mm.

Roslyn (23:12)
to the skin, it is raised because of the wire and those hit pressure points, which means this is a very, like I would be very nervous about riding a horse with this kind of thing, period. The other part of it is tell me about the bit because I don't even remember what the bit looked like on the inside. I feel like it looked like the outside, but tell me, do you remember?

Miss Mississippi (23:33)
I believe it was a twisted wire... I believe it was a twisted wire mouthpiece.

Roslyn (23:39)
So the inside of this bit and I will y'all go to my social media. It's Rosalyn the pet psychic and this is the ride from hell with the Mississippi Queen. And yes, it is a it looks like a stiff broken a snaffle in the middle of it. That's thin and then a very very harsh.

Miss Mississippi (23:48)
Literally.

Roslyn (24:00)
almost the same thickness of the snaffle bit looking thing with a thick probably, I don't know, nine gauge or bigger wire wrapped around it with a curve chain. It's a massive looking shank and we're gonna post this so I need to look up.

Miss Mississippi (24:18)
It's very medieval looking

because I'm not a bit, I'm not bit savvy, okay? I use what my trainer tells me to use and when she explains it to me I take it all in. When I saw that, I saw it and I remembered looking at my friend and she was, you know, we were just like, it's okay, just try them out, can't be that bad. It was that bad.

Roslyn (24:39)
So if you look at it, you would think since it has this wire thing on the nose piece, that that's very hack-a-more-esque or whatever in that category of we're gonna stop you with

Miss Mississippi (24:39)
haha

Yeah. Because it moved. It had like

a... It was not fixed. It moved.

Roslyn (24:55)
It, no,

exactly. You would think that between that and pressing and the broken snaffle in the inside, pressing on the roof of the mouth, this thing would not have the ability to even run away. Like you would not. So what I saw on the first, and I also thought that it needed to be more fixed to do its job or when you would pull back, it would

Miss Mississippi (25:09)
Right.

Right.

Roslyn (25:19)
be able to do its job. when the first thing that I saw that was like the psychic thing and you could tell me if I'm wrong and I'm okay. When you ran in the second time and I'm seeing that video that things flopping. So it's not even engaging and doing what it's supposed to do. So when I saw that I was like, I was like, didn't even know when I first saw that video. I was like, he's going to run away with her and she doesn't have any stopping power. It's supposed to do something or it's supposed to fit differently and it's not and she he already is biting that.

He's already in his face grinding down doing what he wants to do.

Miss Mississippi (25:48)
Mm-hmm.

He was a little bit tense, yeah. But he was not, he wasn't mean. He wasn't, you know, like.

Roslyn (25:53)
Yeah, he is.

His energy is different from in the arena to what his energy was outside of the arena in the small arena. The thing that I really liked about him and I say this because I don't he to me he's not at fault is he is willing to work and do his job and he wants to do his job. He just doesn't have the full training. The other thing that blew my mind when I'm watching the video is she's

Miss Mississippi (26:01)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Roslyn (26:25)
actively saying like he can't do that pull back or something did that agree you need to pull back on him he's he's not ready for that he's not ready for that and i'm

Miss Mississippi (26:32)
She- no, it's me.

She's saying, I'm not ready for that. I'm not ready for speed. She's degrading me as a rider.

Roslyn (26:41)
So I believe you, but there is also, I thought I heard that she heard, she also said he's not ready for that. And maybe I didn't hear it from her, but energetically in her, she is saying he's not ready because he's not because she didn't set you up or him up for success with how, because he wasn't trained properly. And she also didn't let you know that. And that's why she, and I,

Miss Mississippi (26:52)
Maybe

Right.

Roslyn (27:08)
and kind of baffled that she would even have done this because of how he is and how she knows he is. That was a little bit, and that's also what kind of kept hitting me is she knows he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing. And she set you up and put you on this horse anyways. She knows this, but she's so desperate for money. And it's like you said, she's so energetically, what I would say like so energetically high.

Miss Mississippi (27:30)
Yeah

Roslyn (27:35)
struggling that she has to do whatever she can and she just prays like she's just thinking, okay, well this will this will work and maybe this girl can ride better than than yeah.

Miss Mississippi (27:43)
Right. That's exactly

what I feel she was hoping for.

Roslyn (27:46)
Yeah, she didn't give you the chance or him the chance to really do well at this. But the thing is that both of y'all have about this horse, even though he has a disconnect, because when I first felt him, when you first met him, he has not been able to soften up in his life with humans because he can't trust them. He hasn't been able to figure out how to trust them, but he is a good enough horse that he can and he also

has the ability to do what, like he has this big ability to do barrels at a good class, but he needs someone that can work with him and is nice and calm and can teach him, and that is not her.

Miss Mississippi (28:27)
No.

And if she'd have just let me know that, we could have figured something out, you know?

Roslyn (28:31)
Yeah,

because he when you looked at him and couldn't see him, it was because he was in fear of messing up, not being good enough, not knowing where he's going to go. And also this is I know I know it makes me sad too and I didn't mean to like

Miss Mississippi (28:44)
That makes me snap.

It's okay. I know they have feelings and stuff and that's kind of how I read it was he shut himself off.

Roslyn (28:56)
Yeah, he's protecting himself. He's not a horse that needs to be around people that have a lot of energy. He needs a calm, safe place. she has too much, he doesn't have enough grounding is the best way to put it for him. Because he needs like slow steady grounding and support. Because he's not mean.

Miss Mississippi (29:02)
Mm-hmm.

quiet.

Roslyn (29:19)
The only reason he ran off is he thought he was doing what he was supposed to be doing. He thought he was like, and also he got a little, not that this is a health thing. This is kind of how horses see anyways, going from bright light to dark arena is different.

Miss Mississippi (29:34)
is so much different.

It affects them. Sunlight and shade, when you come in and out of it, it kind of, it throws shadows and stuff in their eyes and they're like, like it does.

Roslyn (29:37)
Yes.

And yeah,

their eyes don't dilate as fast as our eyes do. It takes them like, for one, I've read 45 minutes and that was one thing that threw him off. And also he just couldn't figure out, like he knew he was supposed to go. So he just went, so he just did what he, you know, he was just doing what he was supposed to do. But also the other part of that is he couldn't connect with you through that bridle. There was a whole block or

Miss Mississippi (30:10)
There was no

communication, no feeling. There was nothing between me and him other than that I was glued to that saddle because I was not coming out of it.

Roslyn (30:21)
Yeah, I don't

blame you. don't blame you. have you seen that horse anymore? Has it? you? Okay.

Miss Mississippi (30:28)
I've looked for him because I was curious. was like, I hope she didn't just off him or send him off or whatever. And I know he had owners and I didn't get all the information on it, but I had enough information that, and I know what he looks like. Like I said, he was a looker. I felt confident that if I ever saw him again, I would recognize him.

Roslyn (30:48)
He didn't have owners. She was his owner and she got him from a sale. That's the first thing that comes off to me. He didn't have, she was his owner. That's why she, cause if she.

Miss Mississippi (30:55)
makes a lot of sense. Because

she didn't know is when I asked when I remember to ask him for his history if he had any quirks or funny business and that kind of stuff and she said no absolutely no funny business.

Roslyn (31:10)
He

When you asked for more pictures, because I read that part, it was because she hadn't had him long enough to give you more pictures, because she didn't have pictures, because he didn't have an owner for her to go contact. This was her money. This was her needing to flip it to make money. And she thought if she put that strong enough bid on him that it would stop him from running, but it didn't engage, it didn't work, because she didn't have.

Miss Mississippi (31:14)
huh.

see

I feel beat down that he come off of a racetrack and when I tightened my legs to hang on he was just like go because that's what race horses do and there was no way out of that at that point we were already going but I have always gone back to those few seconds like

from the third barrel and out unto me coming off on the ditch. I remember what my body did and everything and I literally, once we came from the shadow to the light, my body locked into the saddle and...

I mean, I wasn't like squeezing the life out of me with my legs, but I was hanging on and I was hanging on the saddle horn and knowing now about race horses, you know, when you squeeze, they think it means go. So I was always like, well, it was my fault, but...

was, what if I had taken my kid to try him out that day? Because he was suitable if they could ride at his... That's always haunted me a little bit.

Roslyn (32:30)
They, she, and

here's the other thing, she's done this before, like several times.

Miss Mississippi (32:37)
When I started talking about the accident and people knew what happened, the horse community, I was told that when you buy from her, you have to sign a contract saying that you will not talk about her. You won't talk about the horse, you won't talk about her, you won't bad mouth her, all that stuff.

People said, there was someone in my community that has bought a horse from her, still has this horse, can't do anything with this horse. Because every time they get into the arena, even close to it, this horse rears up. It literally, and it's a kid that rides this horse, or that did, it would rear up and one time it flipped over.

And luckily she was able to get off before anything bad happened. Because when he reared up, she kind of bailed and then he flipped over. That happened and now this horse is just freeloading in their pasture because they refuse to sell it or send it off or anything like that because they don't want it to happen to somebody else. But they signed the contract that is...

It's something along the lines of they won't talk about her, they won't speak on it, whatever.

Roslyn (33:44)
So did you Google her? Have you ever Googled her? You should Google her and then get back to me. And I say this because there's some, I don't know if it's your neck of the woods, but, and I also say this for the whole audience. These people are, have been trained to, this is how they work. They're, I know that there is a mother daughter that do the same thing. You have to sign contracts where you don't talk about it.

Miss Mississippi (33:46)
No.

now.

Roslyn (34:08)
all these kind of things because they are not ethical horse traders. And if you have a horse or someone that gives you a contract to that extent, that is a no. That is a you don't buy this horse. And for the people that are worried about well, what happens to the horse? They are in, I say this because I've gone through this with so many clients, they're okay. It's gonna be okay. Someone is gonna have a home for them. And if it's not okay here on earth, it will be okay in souls world.

And we have to live with that anyways, but that does not mean that you interrupt your life because you have an untrustworthy horse trader that you're dealing with.

Miss Mississippi (34:37)
Yes.

See, I didn't... I was never told about the contract. We didn't make it that far. Apparently it's given at buying, purchasing, the purchasing time. And that's when it's given.

Roslyn (34:48)
I'm not going tell you about that.

And I, that's a great question to ask at the very beginning why we're doing this is because we want to teach people how, red, yeah, we don't want, the red flags, how do we make this an experience for other people to learn from? And it's one of the questions you can ask is,

Miss Mississippi (35:05)
Yes, I don't want it to happen. I can't.

Roslyn (35:16)
Do you have a, do you make people sign a contract and can I see that contract before I'll even look at your horses? And if they, if they ghost you or they say yes and they don't send it to you and they keep pushing as a celly person, salesperson and gaslighting you and fluff and all this stuff, then that's when that's another red flag. And I know emotionally we get involved and want to buy it just like a, just like a new car. However, there's new cars on other lots. There are,

Miss Mississippi (35:24)
Okay.

Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Roslyn (35:43)
horse traders that are very ethical and would never do anything to put you in a situation where you get hurt or could get hurt because that's liability. That is she grabbed that horse and she got away from you and she related things quickly because she is on that cusp of getting sued or going to jail or something happening because she does things so unethically.

Miss Mississippi (35:53)
Right.

She did fast.

Roslyn (36:07)
So here's the other thing I have to bring up that I want people to get educated about is I read your Facebook messages and things like that. You gave her too much information know that you got into the fields of it and and these things like that. And one thing that you can always say is if this is a youth horse then really good trainers that are in really good traders have youth in their life.

Okay, great. Show me a video. Can you send me a video of a youth riding this? You know, prove to me before I even get put my time and investing in my gas and all this into this horse that this really is a youth horse. Like I have trader, have trainers and traders that are friends that have video footage of youth riding it because they know that that will one jack up the price and in a good way, but I would pay for a horse of youth can ride it.

Miss Mississippi (36:34)
Right.

Bye.

Yes.

Absolutely. Like,

Roslyn (36:59)
Yeah.

Miss Mississippi (37:01)
in my mind, if it's youth-suitable, it's me-suitable.

Roslyn (37:04)
And whenever you're thinking about asking these traders questions of things that you need, keep those questions in mind and then see if they can give you evidence, not verbal. I need video, need pictures, I need some of these, some of the things that you have on your list that you want from a horse, they should be able to provide it to you some way before you ever go and ride this horse. And then if it is a horse for the youth,

Miss Mississippi (37:15)
Right.

Roslyn (37:30)
they need to write it first before anybody at that place and then you need to write it and then then you or go take it to the trainer or you ever put a youth on it because that's another you don't know these people and kids don't actually sometimes they don't bail sometimes they like hang on. Yeah, exactly. So is there any other questions that you have? Is there I mean, I've kind of gone through some of my psychic stuff all throughout this.

Miss Mississippi (37:38)
Friday.

No. They don't know any different.

Roslyn (37:59)
Um, you know, is there anything you want to add?

Miss Mississippi (38:00)
Don't think so.

Roslyn (38:01)
So my other question is, did you get a horse? Have you found a horse? Okay.

Miss Mississippi (38:04)
did! Her name

is Reba. She's...

Probably twice the size of Romeo. So size was not the issue. Because she was really verbally bringing me down, like saying that I was not ready, I couldn't ride. One of the questions, she's like, can she even ride? Like that wasn't caught on video, but she said that.

Roslyn (38:11)
wow.

Why are you saying size was not the issue?

So she said this when you're trying him out.

Miss Mississippi (38:32)
huh. Yeah, like this is all going down while I'm like riding him. She's like, she's not ready for that. I don't think she's ready. She needs to go back. She's not ready for a horse like that. And now.

Roslyn (38:43)
And this is before

he even had did anything.

Miss Mississippi (38:46)
Yeah, it was before anything ever happened.

Roslyn (38:48)
So I'm just curious to all the trainers out there, if you feel like someone can't ride your horse and you're trying to sell it, what do you do? Do you stop them? Do you, because to me that means that they don't have the skills to ride it and I wouldn't want somebody to let my horse run away with them if that's, you know, but I also wouldn't put someone on a horse that the horse could possibly run away with. So I just need to know from the trainers and the traders out there, like how,

What am I missing in this except for she's already tearing you down because she has to justify it.

Miss Mississippi (39:17)
As

horse person, I have horses and I have people that come over and they'll be like, want to ride, can I ride? I take in what each person knows. If they have any knowledge, most of the time they don't have any. So what do they get on? They get on the kids horse. The one that's grandma safe, mother-in-law safe, you can put anybody on that horse. Because I know that they're okay and regardless of

What they do as a rider, the horse is gonna just chill and be fine and not do anything crazy to scare them or to bring their confidence down and stuff. And her as a horse trader and whatever she is, she should know that. She should be able to tell. And whenever I sent the message specifically stating I was not looking for speed and what level I was looking for,

That told her anything and everything that she needed to know right there as well. It was just a matter of her not listening to me. She didn't hear me. She heard me, but she didn't hear me.

Roslyn (40:17)
I you.

So you have seen her since this?

Miss Mississippi (40:20)
yes. We... The first time?

Roslyn (40:20)
What was that experience like?

Miss Mississippi (40:24)
The first time I wanted to be messy, I wanted to pop off, I was like, ugh, it's her! But I had to let it go really quick because the new horse that I got requires every bit of my attention. She's not crazy or anything, she's just anxious like I am. And if-

I'm not in the correct mindset, she's not in the correct mindset. So I had to let it go as quickly as it came and I was frustrated for seeing her and I put her in the back of my mind and later that night we rode, we were, you know, it was time to ride or whatever. Reba and I ran and we ended up beating her, all three of her horses and...

In her action shots, my husband is accidentally posted up in every one of them. And he's just watching. We're not familiar with this arena. There's no stands or anything, so he's literally just standing in the corner watching. But he is caught in every one of her pictures. And I made the joke and I said, well, if she wants any of her action shots, she's gonna either have to get him edited out or deal with him.

Roslyn (41:35)
Did she seem like she was trying to sell more horses there? Did is this something? Do you see her on Facebook a lot? Did she block you on Facebook?

Miss Mississippi (41:42)
She blocked me, but she's still actively selling horses. I know that probably two of the three horses she had at the arena that night was client horses or for sale. Because that's what they do. They just take them and ride them and show them and all that kind of stuff.

Roslyn (42:01)
That's how they sell them.

Miss Mississippi (42:02)
So I knew that two of them were and I met some other brokers and some other people that know her and are familiar with her. And I was like, you're acquaintances? And you kind of have to like be careful and just smile and don't say anything because you don't know which way they go and stuff. I finally just came out and I was like, this is what happened. And just in case she's ever said anything.

This is the truth. And I sent it all to the mutual friend that I met at the arena that night. And they were like, don't mess with her before you get yourself killed. Like don't, don't, don't mess with any other horses from her. If you're shopping for a horse, let somebody else know so they can get you in the right direction with the right people, good people, so that you don't get yourself hurt or killed. And I was like, yeah, I know that now.

Roslyn (42:49)
So for all the audiences listening, would this also be a time when you would say, if you're looking at buying a horse that you need to ask other people in that person's area and just put up, cause listen, the horse community groups on Facebook are fierce and they are protective and in a good way.

Miss Mississippi (43:00)
Yes. Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Roslyn (43:10)
It seems like even though we might not be saying these people's names on here, you can go to the Facebook groups in those areas and find out if this person has a good or not so good reputation.

Miss Mississippi (43:18)
huh.

I would suggest do it quietly. Do it verbally with your small net group. Don't do it publicly, you know, on Facebook yet that you're looking because you don't want everybody knowing your business and what you're looking for and whatnot. word of mouth travels really fast. Yeah, and...

Roslyn (43:39)
Yeah, especially in the horse world.

Miss Mississippi (43:42)
can contact you, ask you a question, you may not know the answer, but you have a friend two houses down that you know knows the answer. It kind of works like that. And if, the reason I say do it quietly is because if you post it on Facebook, sometimes you get kind of unwanted opinions that you didn't want. So go quietly to your group that you're...

close with, you're comfortable with, that you trust, that you would take advice from, those are your people that you're gonna wanna listen to, regardless. Because they're the ones that want nothing but the best for you. They want good, they have good interests, all that. And you don't have everybody in your business.

Roslyn (44:21)
Did you, is this how you found Reba? Is from all of everything that you learned. So can you just briefly tell me how you found her?

Miss Mississippi (44:26)
Yes.

So Reba belonged to an eight-year-old boy at the time and he was going through some stuff and getting out of horses and she come up for sale. Well they used her for a broodmare for a really couple years probably after they got her and she had two foals I think. And let me think.

She came up for sale and the ad was, and I knew her, like I knew the horse, I'd seen the kid rider. that's what it was, sorry, let me back up a little bit. He had a horse and it passed away, it was an older horse and it was time for him to cross over and they did all that and he passed and the boy decided he wanted to run one more time. I think he went to BBR World Finals or something like that and.

They wanted to give him a solid chance and they knew that Reba was a bear horse for youth at one time. So they pulled her, literally pulled her out of the pasture, cleaned her up, took her to Oklahoma and to Florida, ran her and he ran her. And he came back and I think he decided that he just didn't want to do it. He wanted to go a different route and that's okay.

And she came up for sale and the ad was, ride her or breed her your choice, you can't go wrong. And I said, what? So then I started asking questions about her. I wanted to know everything. wanted, you know, all of it. And I knew the kid. Like I've seen the kid rider, seen the videos, all of it. So there really wasn't a lot of needing video evidence and whatnot.

So we get her and I'm scared. There's no hiding it. You can tell I'm scared. Because the first little while, I have a helmet when I ride her. And I'm not dissing helmets. Love them. Use them when you need to. Whatever. It's self-choice. But because of that, I have a whole different perspective on things. So I have my little helmet on. And she is the sweetest at the time.

Now we jive and we get along and she's like, I'm just gonna test you a little bit. At the time she was literally so sweet and so careful and quiet. She didn't even make a wrong step or flinch or anything with me. And I think it's because she knew I was scared. I was nervous. We have been together a year now and we went from slow, and this is slow for her, she's about

she's right at 17 hands. We went from 22, we went from 22 second runs to 15 nines. It took a year, but it took a year to build my confidence back up and to realize you do know how to ride. Like stop letting something like that get in your head. Like stop questioning yourself. You know what you're doing.

You have lessons, this is what you train for, all of it. Like, stop letting that bother you. But it was like when the accident happened, everything I knew about riding went out the window. That's what it seemed like. It's like I completely forgot everything I knew and had to start over.

Roslyn (47:24)
Do you think, and I'm saying this because I have ridden and had horses, it feels like a vacuum just sucks your ability out and you question it, you don't understand. Do you have to, did you have to keep training your brain and telling you you've got it and you're good and you're brave and you're strong to get your feelings back?

Miss Mississippi (47:40)
Yes. Yes.

Yes, because this is how I learned if I'm not in the right mindset, she's not gonna be either. I would get nervous, anxious and worked up and I would start panicking on the inside. Like, you can't do this. And all it was was me remembering, because she's big and she's strong, but it was just little parts.

that would bring up little flashbacks or memories of Romeo and it was running out of the arena. For the longest time, I was scared of running out of the arena and I would just keep telling myself, she stops. You know she stops and she stops literally. As big as she is, she stops on a dime.

Roslyn (48:22)
So for the guest, the audience listening, hopefully this is the biggest gift I can give anybody. When you have energy, when you have a situation with a horse and you're not as confident as you are or were, the one thing that what happens is it kind of like sucks that energy out of you and you can't find it because it's floating around in the ethers if you want to get into the psychic energy part of it. So you have to call it back.

to you and the way yes, so you have gone through the process of calling it back because it left. It's not gone completely. You know, it's not gone a lot of times. We know deep inside we can do this, but it's so deep. It's so feels like it's so far away. We don't even know how to get there and how you get there is your mental conversation about how you feel about yourself and you have to call it back in. I'm brave. I know where to stand. I know.

Miss Mississippi (49:00)
Haha

Yes.

Roslyn (49:13)
I know how to ride. know how to stop. She's gonna stop for me. I trust her. I trust me. I lived through that accident to talk about it. I will live through more. I wear a helmet. You have to bring back all of your confident positive things and build it back up. Nobody can give that back to you. You're the one that has to say, I can do this. I can handle whatever step, whatever comes in front of me. I'm brave and I know more and it will be okay.

Miss Mississippi (49:28)
Thank you.

Right.

Roslyn (49:41)
And so when you do that, that's when you're just bringing it back into you and building it back up. Because if you really want to the truth, horses have to do that to themselves all the time. They have to make the choices and they get that from us. we, so she calms down because you're projecting calm. She amps up because you're projecting amp. So that is, and so she's feeding off of what you're giving her.

Miss Mississippi (49:45)
Thank

Thank you.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Roslyn (50:07)
And so when you give her, I'm safe and I'm strong and I trust you and you trust me, then that's the energy bubble that you put yourselves in.

Miss Mississippi (50:07)
huh.

It took us a little bit. She had been passed around prior to the little boy. He had only had her three years maybe. We did some searching, some background searching on her and I think she had been passed around about seven times. She was a racehorse from Louisiana. She didn't make it on the track, obviously, because if she doesn't want to, she's not going to.

Roslyn (50:36)
He ran.

Miss Mississippi (50:37)
She's a diva, she's bae. Solid.

Roslyn (50:40)
She's bae.

Is she more red bae than dark bae? She feels like a chestnut. So just like, she is, yes.

Miss Mississippi (50:43)
Yeah, he is more a red bay.

She is a diva.

All the way. I call her Reba Diva because I talk to her just like me and you were talking and I'm like, come on honey, let's go. And I can just hear her. And I'll be like, you're fine, we're fine, we're gonna be fine. We're gonna get through this. It's just, we've overcame a lot together. She would get nervous in certain settings, in arenas and stuff.

and I learned different things that I could do with her to help her calm down to the nervousness and it would help me too and it's playing with her mane and if my hands busy I'm not thinking because I'm just playing with her mane and then she's okay because I'm just playing with her mane

Roslyn (51:27)
And she left.

Because she's a princess. loves to be loved. And they were not in the way of like,

Miss Mississippi (51:31)
Yes! She is such a diva!

like

just sat.

Roslyn (51:38)
Yes, she's so good. Is there anything else that you want to add or you feel like people need to know?

Miss Mississippi (51:43)
Trust your gut. Go with it. And if that's not the horse and you know it right then and there, don't prove nothing. You don't have to prove anything. You don't have to ride it to say that you rode it and that you gave it a chance. It's just not and that's it.

Roslyn (51:56)
And if you feel guilty for going there and they brought the horse all the way there and you didn't feel it, ask them to ride it. And because you don't have to, this is one step at a time. And if your negative pole went up as my trainer would say, if you got a negative feeling, then how do you break it down for yourself? Let them ride it. You didn't necessarily come to ride it. You're just coming to look at it and feel it out. And then if they don't want to ride it, no, thanks, bye.

Miss Mississippi (52:01)
Exactly.

now.

Yeah.

Yeah, for real because

Roslyn (52:24)
You definitely don't want to get on.

Miss Mississippi (52:25)
there are too many good horses out there waiting for you to find them. Don't waste an opportunity just because.

Roslyn (52:36)
And just like with Romeo, when she said she didn't see any his eyes, she didn't connect with him, his soul leaves, the soul can leave. We do that. When we get emotionally or upset or in situations, your soul will disassociate. And so animals will disassociate to keep themselves safe until they feel safe enough that they can bring that soul in. And that is what Romeo is looking for. He's either looking for someone to come and help him to bring his soul in or he's looking to not be there physically anymore.

Miss Mississippi (52:45)
Yeah, disassociate.

Roslyn (53:04)
And so, and he can just let, and they sometimes realize they just can let go and they'll just go downhill with sickness or whatever. And they're okay, cause their soul's okay. It's the physical that we are so attached to, but a lot of times that's just a moment in time. So, so just know that. So, okay, well, perfect.

Miss Mississippi (53:08)
Bye.

Mm-hmm.

Roslyn (53:21)
Well, listen, Mississippi Queen, this was fantastic. Thank you for being on this podcast. Thank you for educating and bringing your story to light. I hope people really learn some valuable things from this and also know that they're not the only ones out here that are dealing with this kind of thing. And if you want to see more of this podcast and more things, follow me on Roslyn the Pet Psychic. I want all the socials that way. And I love you guys. And I just want all of...

all of us to have happy, healthy horses. All right, bye.

Miss Mississippi (53:52)
Bye!