Surprise! Here’s Your Free Horse (and Some Donkey Drama Too)

What would you do if someone passed away and left you a horse—with no warning and just one day to prepare? In this heartfelt (and slightly hilarious) episode, we talk with Ginger from Manzanita Farm, who got the surprise of a lifetime when a former worker’s last wish was that she take in their beloved horse.

We also dive into the world of donkeys—especially the health challenges they face living in the lush, green pastures of the South. Whether you love horses, care for donkeys, or just enjoy a good surprise, this episode is full of real-life heart, humor, and a few hoofbeats along the way. You can find Ginger and all of her fun loving animals on all the socials at Manzanita Farm.

If you would like your own Pet Psychic Reading you can book a with me at RoslynThePetPsychic.com 

Got a wild horse, dog, or cat story of what not to do? Breeding gone wrong? Buyer beware? A riding mishap with a lesson? I want to hear it! If you’re in the holistic pet or horse world and want to share your story—or even promote your biz—head to RoslynThePetPsychic.com and text or email me. You might be featured on the podcast. 

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Transcript

Roslyn (00:00)
Welcome to Roslyn the Pet Psychic's podcast, the show where animal intuition meets untold stories. I'm Roslyn, your host and resident pet psychic. Each week we dive into the unbelievable, the heartwarming and sometimes the downright haunting tales from the animal world told by the people who live them, whether it's a horse who knew too much and spilled the tea, a trainer who crossed the line or a pet with a message from beyond.

We're here to explore the deeper truths behind the stories that leave us wondering, what do our animals know that we don't?

This program may include real names, places and events when shared with consent, as well as stories that have been anonymized or fictionalized to protect the identity and safety of individuals. The content of this podcast is intended for entertainment and informational purposes only.

Views expressed by the host and guest are personal opinions and conjecture and should not be interpreted as fact or as professional advice. With some episodes may include educational insights or expert commentary, listeners are encouraged to use their own judgment and consult appropriate professionals when needed. Got a wild horse, dog or cat story of what not to do? Breeding gone wrong? Buyer beware? A riding mishap with a lesson?

I want to hear it. If you're in the holistic or horse world and want to share your story or even promote your biz, head to RoslynThePetPsychic.com and text or email me. You might be featured on the podcast.

Roslyn (01:31)
welcome everyone. Welcome to Roslyn the Pet Psychic I have a beautiful guest today. We actually met on social media and have kind of lived close together and met each other and seen each other in real life at like Mustang summits and fun things like that. She is definitely a horse person that you want to follow on social media. So I want you to add your tag there. But anyways, welcome Ginger to the podcast.

Ginger Hipp (01:57)
Hello, how are you doing?

Roslyn (01:58)
Good, Ginger, tell me who you are, where people can find you, and all the good stuff.

Ginger Hipp (02:03)
all the platforms under Manzanita Farm. The hashtag is tacky ass farm because I raise and show marsh tackies which is the South Carolina state horse and also miniature donkeys. I kind of mesh the two of those together and we teach horsemanship lessons out here and do some light showing things like that and hopefully raise some baby donkeys.

Roslyn (02:15)
fun.

Oh, I love it. That's exciting. I love donkeys. I love donkeys. They're interesting. We might have to do a blip on donkey health People don't realize that they have to eat a little differently than horses.

Ginger Hipp (02:37)
Yes, very much. Yeah, especially in the South. I mean, because we, you know, we just love to eat around here and we have good grass and the donkeys don't need it.

Roslyn (02:48)
No,

okay, we'll go into that in just a little bit, but let's talk about this precious, I've seen a picture of it, let's talk about grace. How did you get grace? What is grace? What are your plans with grace?

Ginger Hipp (03:01)
Well, Grace is an American paint horse, so she is not a Marshtackey. So I actually did not want Grace. And I guess I can't really tell you the full story on Grace without at least touching on Mercy first. And Mercy passed away back in November. And that's a whole nother podcast, you know, in itself. But we lost

Mercy in November and at the time I was like no more horses. I'm done. I'm just gonna focus just on the ones that I already have I'm not bringing in any more rescues or you know, whatever like we're just gonna focus just on the ones that are here and then about a month and a half later A gentleman that I knew in the past had gotten sick

and he had passed away. And unbeknownst to me, he had told his family that if something, when something happened to him to call Ginger because she would take grace. And he never mentioned to me anything about taking grace. I didn't even know he had a grace. Yeah, I didn't know anything about her. So just out of the blue one day, I got a Facebook.

message and said, Hey, you Mr. Gary passed away and he said he wanted you to have grace. So can you come pick her up tomorrow?

Roslyn (04:24)
my gosh, that is like so out of the blue and so what? I have another horse I have to deal with this? That is crazy energy.

Ginger Hipp (04:34)
Yeah, it yeah it was and on top of that grace had not been messed with or touched from what I can gather from people who Knew them for like eight to ten years. She has been out in this round pin. It's not too small, but I mean it's

round pen panels, it's not big either. She had shelter and he took care of her. She was not abused in any kind of way, but she was like neglected in the way that she was just like don't all stop feed and walk away. So she has not had her feet done. She's had no vet care. She has not been handled in many, many years.

Roslyn (05:13)
Her teeth she needed her teeth her feet everything. How did she look when you got cuz I've seen pictures. She's beautiful

Ginger Hipp (05:13)
and

Yeah, I was so mad about that actually because she looked amazing. She is very morbidly obese. She was she's too fat because they were feeding her like six pounds of all stock feed a day and and they did have a round bail and in her pen she did not go without like for sure. Very very overweight.

and she can hardly move. Like she's very stiff. Like she's so overweight that like she can't turn her head and like touch her sides because she's so crusty and crusty. So we've been working on, you know, changing the diet and being in a round pen. She's not very agile. Her exercise program is like none. So it's been very slow. Her feet were, they're bad, but not.

off a bad, it's like big old paddles, but not horse, know, flipped up or anything like that, but just big plods. Her teeth are in terrible shape. She goes in two weeks to the vet because her trailing skills are like zero to none. And so we've been working on that. So that's, that's been fun teaching a 14 year old paint horse, full grown horse on how to get in and out of a trailer.

calmly and respectfully so When she's had no under she's not a mean horse in any kind of way, but she doesn't really respect human space Yeah, she's just walked over the top of people and it's not in any kind of aggression or anything She just doesn't know any better. She just thinks you're just gonna move out of her way

Roslyn (06:54)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. So what, so after you get, so she's 14 and from a, like, I'm just going to interject from a psychic standpoint and like what you said, she does feel, she feels like she's 20. She doesn't hurt like she's 20, but she physically feels like she's 20 when I channel her. Is there, is this reversible?

Ginger Hipp (07:01)
Yeah.

Right.

you

you

I so. mean, I was a personal trainer for 15 years and I've worked mostly with seniors in the town that I lived in and the gym that I worked in was, you know, geared towards seniors. And so I've worked with them and, know, absolutely they were able to go from sedentary to, you know, being more active. I mean, is it a longer process? Sure. You know, do you have to go in a

slower pace yeah but i don't think that it's at least i hope not i mean we go to the vet in two weeks i want to have them draw blood work make sure that she's not metabolic she may be it's a good possibility but you know things like that but she seems very healthy she does have a lot of clicking when she walks she sounds like she has a lot of arthritis and i i think it's just

You know, you can go from, you know, the two different ends of the scale. Like you can work out too hard and hurt yourself or you can not work out at all and hurt yourself. And I think that's kind of where she is in life. Like she, like she didn't know how to stand for the farrier. Like, like if she wasn't being bad or anything, she just didn't know how to hold her body in space. Like she doesn't know how to hold up three legs.

you

Roslyn (08:36)
So she leans on him for support.

Ginger Hipp (08:38)
Right, and she's like wobbling all around, you know, and so we're like, okay, we're gonna have to work on balancing, you know, what she should have learned as a yearling, you know, a wingling yearling, two-year-old tops, you know, those kind of skill sets.

Roslyn (08:54)
Yeah, is your so let me ask you did she come with papers?

Ginger Hipp (08:58)
know. So the family members, they live out in Texas. I don't know how the relationship was with the gentleman who passed away. He said he's coming back in March to do probate stuff. And if he finds the papers, supposedly she does. If he finds the papers, he'll call me. Am I holding my breath? No. But she looks like it.

Roslyn (09:21)
So she

is local. How far of a trailer ride did she have to go to get to you? Oh, that's good. Okay, that was great.

Ginger Hipp (09:28)
15 minutes. Yeah,

just right down the road.

Roslyn (09:33)
Okay, so what's your plans with her?

Ginger Hipp (09:35)
Good

Roslyn (09:35)
That's okay, you don't have to know. You just had a horse in the day with no way to get out of it. So the dead man spoke and you were like, here we go.

Ginger Hipp (09:39)
What?

Yeah, kind of like she's not the breed that I focus on. If I were to buy another horse, it would be a Marshtacke or another Pasofino because I would prefer to have a gated horse and she is so far not gated at all. She's a much larger horse than I like. She's all the things that I would not have picked out.

Roslyn (10:07)
Yeah.

Ginger Hipp (10:11)
for myself but then there's something about her too that I'm like I don't I don't know if I want to fix her up and get her ready and then try to rehome her and then you know you you almost feel all that guilt like I don't want Mr. Gary coming in like knocking on the door in the middle of the night right yeah so there's a little bit of that still

Roslyn (10:29)
What do you do with my horse?

So can I speak on the energies of you and her? Like, can I do a little bit of psychic stuff? So I love this because, and I think, and I want you to answer me if this is true or not. I do not feel that you have sympathy for her in a non-nurturing way. Like, does that make sense? Like you don't feel bad for her. Whereas, but some people are like, oh, poor pitiful thing. You don't have a home, you don't have a family. You're going through all this stuff.

Ginger Hipp (10:37)
Yeah.

Roslyn (11:04)
and I say that because that also is

letting her personality blossom in a different way. Would you agree with that?

Ginger Hipp (11:13)
yeah, definitely. I like I she wasn't ever abused or harmed in any kind of way. She just doesn't know things. And I think she's actually, she seems to me anyway to be pretty happy here. Like she's easy to catch, comes right up. You know, she wore an old halter for all those years and I

I took it off of her within the first few days and I have no problem going out there and catching her. She loves the other horses. Honey is not having it yet. Honey is not, you cannot sit with us kind of thing, but they're working on it.

Roslyn (11:48)
Yeah,

like I can feel that she's so grateful to have company now. And yeah, she's not lonely. She was very lonely and would didn't know like, I mean, think about it being in panels. I mean, and I'm know, and I feel like it was a good size and she had food to graze on and keep her occupied. But whenever the food stopped filling her up and this and that there was nothing to do. There was nothing, not very much interactions in this and that. So.

Ginger Hipp (11:54)
yeah.

Roslyn (12:15)
So yeah, has, life is a little bit of an adventure now. The only thing for her is she can't move fast enough to get out of way of some of the other horses sometimes, and they do kind of bully her, and they also kind of pick on her because she doesn't know, like, y'all don't feel bad, don't give no bad energies. This is helping her to move, and it's going to help unlock some of that stuff in her body so she will get better. I also don't think they're being aggressive with her.

They're just being bossy and picking order and teaching her horse lingo that she doesn't quite understand, but she's picking up because she's not dumb. There's nothing dumb about

Ginger Hipp (12:53)
definitely agree with that because Honey's definitely, she's the herd boss, like she's the one who decides everything where everybody stands and breeds and she does and she is getting better. They are communicating a lot more. Honey is starting to settle in with her. She still rides her pretty hard, but not like she did like in the beginning.

And she does move better. She had her first farrier appointment yesterday, actually, so we finally got some of that length off. And she even trotted around the pasture a little bit yesterday instead of like paddling, like she was starting to pick her feet up a little bit more. And she has lost weight. We've changed her diet, you know, throughout this past month very slowly. It was so hard having to buy a bag of all-stought, like I was...

Roslyn (13:34)
that's so good.

Ginger Hipp (13:45)
I almost had a panic attack doing that.

Roslyn (13:49)
But you have to realize,

like, this is probably the first and last bag I'll have to buy.

Ginger Hipp (13:53)
I was like, and it was so funny too because of like how, how pretty that she is. I mean she's so pretty and she's so shiny coated and everything and I was like, I'm paying $30 up at, and mine look like wild marsh tackies. They're out there covered in mud and muck and fairy knots all in their hair and they look like I've never touched them a day in their life and she's just so shiny and.

pretty just standing over there and I'm like, okay, Yeah

Roslyn (14:21)
That's all the fat. That's all the fat. had to go somewhere. So now it's coming out of the skin and the hair.

to grease everything up, poor thing. Is there anything else that you want to share about her?

Ginger Hipp (14:33)
She does seem like... because I don't know much about her past training, but I did want to ask you some of this. She does seem like she... she may have been green broke at one point. Like, she's really... she lets me put the saddle and stuff on her and she acts as if she knows what that is. Like, she doesn't act as if that's not,

has it happened to her at some point in life and so and she's starting to respond to groundwork stuff now again like I think she probably wasn't well trained but I don't know if she's ever had a rider on her and if she has or hasn't doesn't matter but like would she want to would she want to be ridden

Roslyn (15:17)
So let me ask you a couple of questions, because he didn't have her since she was a baby.

Ginger Hipp (15:20)
you

No, I think she was around like two or three something like that when

Roslyn (15:26)
I'm feeling

four, just so you know. And then also she has been, in our eyes, it would be green broke because your idea of well-broken, my idea well-broken or not, or with what she has is not, they don't equal out. Like her turning abilities, she's not gonna know how the heck. So what I feel like is she's had saddle and she's gone places.

Ginger Hipp (15:28)
Pass.

All right.

Roslyn (15:53)
but the whole bit bridal communication leg on like that doesn't make sense to her in her head. And so when I show her things, saddle feels right, a bridal feels funny is what she says. then going and moving will probably not be that bad right now.

Ginger Hipp (16:00)
Mm-hmm.

you

Roslyn (16:13)
it's when she starts to feel good enough that she can move. I don't think she'll be bad. I think that's when you have like such a window of time to teach her things before her body feels really good. And then once her body feels really good and she has a lot of lessons, then you have a lot less of her possibility of not being so reactive.

Ginger Hipp (16:23)
right.

Yeah. Yeah, it's like,

don't want that.

Roslyn (16:40)
No, don't

want that for sure. Not that. So that's that is that's how she feels.

Ginger Hipp (16:45)
Mm-hmm.

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense Yeah, cuz that's not I always wonder about her and I there's really nobody's really giving me any kind of answers. There's going

Roslyn (16:48)
Yeah, because then we're like, hey, hey.

I have a feeling, I hope you get her papers and I have a feeling if you do, you'll be able to find out more answers through the people. You'll probably be able to link some things up. Cause I feel like she's local. I feel like.

Ginger Hipp (17:07)
think so, yeah, I think she is. Probably. Probably so. I think.

Roslyn (17:10)
Yeah. And she didn't make it as like what they would have wanted for a show horse. And so it's like, hey, do you want this horse?

Happened so much. Yeah, so I get that. Is there anything else you want me to ask her? Because I want to ask you about donkeys.

Ginger Hipp (17:28)
That was like the main thing is like kind of like what she knew, how she felt about being here, you know, and being.

You know, cause I know that even though she's, she was lonely there, you know, that's like her home for so long, you know, and I know that that can be sometimes, I mean, I guess it's traumatic for anybody, but try not to let it.

override anything else. That makes sense.

Roslyn (17:53)
so, and not to blame anybody or say anything. I don't know if she was getting fed as equally as she once was towards the end. And she, was less people and less interaction. So she knew things were shifting. so you can answer this. Did she have a complete meltdown?

meltdown when you came and got her of like trying to get on the trailer.

Ginger Hipp (18:16)
It wasn't actually all that bad. You know, it did take somebody behind her flagging her, but I mean, she never even had to get touched or anything with the flag. I mean, we just flagged her and she got in with me and I tied her up and then she got real nervous and shaky then, but she rode fairly well in the trailer home, but she was just very like...

my god, where am I going? What am I doing? Which I know that's normal for somebody who hasn't done that in gazillion years. But I wouldn't say that she totally freaked out now.

Roslyn (18:53)
So this tells me a lot about her that will help you hopefully. She is an internal anxiety freezer instead of a flea or fighter. So she, it all comes in and she gets all like, my God, what's happening? But she has a very trusting nature for people.

Ginger Hipp (19:01)
Mm-hmm.

That makes it. Yeah.

Roslyn (19:15)
which also

is really great because that means nobody's done anything really bad.

Ginger Hipp (19:19)
Yeah, I don't feel that she's like that. I think she just, it's just a more of like, really have no idea what I'm doing or what you're asking me to do.

Roslyn (19:22)
and

Yeah, and so then

after, so she does have a stubborn streak. Yeah, think you're like most of yours do. And it's not, hers isn't stubborn because I'm unwillingly to do this, that might come a little bit later. Her stubbornness is, I don't know what you're asking and I'm very uncomfortable internally.

Ginger Hipp (19:35)
Yeah.

Roslyn (19:55)
I don't know what you're, and that's what she kind of like shows me is like, I don't know what you're asking and I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Kind of like energy in her. But once, because you're so slow and empathic too, once you slow down to what she needs because her energy went up, then you can, you function really good to help support her through learning.

Ginger Hipp (20:03)
Yeah.

Right, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

Roslyn (20:22)
which is really good. And I say that out loud because so many trainers don't slow down to let the horse catch up and you will be shocked at all my years of channeling. There's some horses that are so smart, but they process slow. And if you give them a chance to process, you will have a jam up horse because the ones that process slow, it sticks. You don't have to keep reteaching them.

Ginger Hipp (20:46)
Right, yeah.

Roslyn (20:48)
But if they don't slow down, they bum rush through it and they miss an opportunity.

Ginger Hipp (20:52)
Actually the donkeys have taught me that.

rolling into the donkeys. They are definitely the ones who taught me how to slow down.

Roslyn (20:55)
Less yes, but.

They

are, I love donkeys. I will definitely be having me some. My neighbor has six and they're absolutely hilarious. They all have different personalities, And they have like five acres of grass, five or 10 acres of grass. mean, it's like their pastures are huge.

Ginger Hipp (21:12)
Yes.

struggle with mine and their own draw lots. And I also take out, which I have to start again because I don't know if you saw, but Lily had aborted her baby and she didn't retain the pregnancy. And I went and took her, her ultrasound because I was like, she's way past due and she, you know, she didn't have the baby, but she looks like she's pregnant and she was even producing milk.

And it was just a chemical pregnancy, you know, at that point, whatever. And Dr. Wode was like, well, I guess it's just time for her to go back on a diet. And I'm like.

She's so mad about it too. Like she is not a happy camper with me.

Roslyn (21:58)
So what do you, if they're on a dry lot, what do you feed them? How do you keep them healthy? What does all that look like compared to horses?

Ginger Hipp (22:05)
Well, with the donkeys, I feed them hay twice a day and I usually try to like put it in bags so you know they have to you know work at it a little bit harder. Back when I didn't think that she was pregnant, I would take and hang the hay bales like all in different spots and try to make them walk and stuff more. And I also take, it's that tractor supply, it's by the brand Do-more, but it is the straw

that you bed down dog beds or sheep or horse bedding or whatever, it's the straw. It says straw on it. But you actually take it and you mix it in with their regular hay because donkeys can and will eat that. It has no nutritional value. Horses won't eat it, but donkeys will. And so I mix that in with their regular hay so they're really eating more straw than they are.

Forthate.

Roslyn (22:59)
Well, that's okay. That's interesting.

Ginger Hipp (23:02)
And then sometimes I'll take, you know, some sugar-free treats and things and put them in the ball so they have to roll it all around all over the place and, you know, to try to keep them busy. And then other than that, they just get like a little small portion of ration balancer.

Roslyn (23:17)
Okay, so then you... And they're so fat. That's... need... Your donkeys were miniature donkeys, right? Miniature to maybe a little bit taller?

Ginger Hipp (23:18)
and they're so fat.

Well, yeah, I have miniatures and then I have one mammoth and My mammoth he's he just eats what the horses eat he eats unbeatable complete he gets a smaller portion than them even though he's bigger than they are he gets a smaller portion and and then they have a round bail out there and I keep I keep a hay net over the round bail and He's pretty pretty fit, you know on that but even he eats less

Roslyn (23:30)
Yeah, okay, okay.

Ginger Hipp (23:52)
than the horses do.

Roslyn (23:53)
Yeah. So is it an eating less like they don't have to eat as much or is it

Ginger Hipp (23:54)
Mm.

Yes, so you know they came from the desert so they're desert animals so they can digest I think it's like 80 85 percent of what they eat They can break that down So they are like actually digesting the nutrients a lot more efficiently than horses do That's why also whenever you give them sedatives and stuff they burn it off their metabolism burns at all. You have to be careful

about sedatives and stuff that you give donkeys because of the way that their metabolism is different than horses. they can just metabolize the food a whole lot easier than other equines. And so they don't need as much.

Roslyn (24:42)
So that's why my neighbors eat her bark off the trees.

Ginger Hipp (24:46)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they love that. I know I don't have any trees in my dry lot because when we built it we had trees out there but they just they just love to eat the bark. Yeah and that's another thing you can take old logs and old branches that have dried out and throw it out there in the in the dry lot and they'll drag them around and chew on them and and things like that that you wouldn't do with horses and but the donkeys eat stuff like that and chew on things like that.

Roslyn (25:12)
knew they did and that's so interesting, but it's even more interesting to hear that it's hard to keep them from like being crusty even if you have a dry lot and hardly no food. It's almost, but it makes sense if you think about them living in the desert because they probably go miles without food and then they finally get food and they like fill their bellies up and it's who knows what trees, tree branches, this and that.

Ginger Hipp (25:32)
Yes.

Right? All dried up grasses. Right. It's not usually green and fresh and wet like horses.

Roslyn (25:47)
So does that affect their feet more? Do they have more metabolic issues?

Ginger Hipp (25:52)
here in the southeast, sure. Definitely. Yeah. Like Lily has foundered multiple times in the past, so we have to really stay on top of her feet. So far my other ones have really good feet and they're all okay, but Lily's definitely been foundered in the past. And it has come and I've had...

Roslyn (25:57)
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Ginger Hipp (26:14)
multiple rescue donkeys because another thing is is like people get them and then they just dump them out in these pins and they don't ever handle them and then they're mad at them because they don't know how to get their feet done.

Roslyn (26:25)
Well, this is so interesting because, you know, I don't know if you are keep up with bunny or jelly roll. And they just got donkeys and I'm like on lush green grass and I'm like, whoa. then I'm like, goodness, this is going to be interesting. the thing that makes me so nervous about it is like they're going to say

Ginger Hipp (26:32)
Mm-hmm, right, yes. I f-

Roslyn (26:47)
You shouldn't have these animals because at some point they're not going to look good, right? And it's not going to be what they want. And they're not going to know because they don't have the education because you can clearly see if you follow the story that whoever sold them their animals did it for the fame and the this and the that because the if I was selling bunny a donkey, that donkey would be the most lovable donkey. But I also make sure that they had a completely like grass-free pasture and they understood what was going on. You could just tell that they were set up not for success and that

that release.

Ginger Hipp (27:17)
If you do have to put them on a pasture with grass like they need to be able to wear muzzles like put a grazing muzzle

on them if you don't have any options, you know.

Roslyn (27:25)
If you watched it, you probably wouldn't be

able to catch the daggum donkey and they can't even catch the donkey. They had to get another donkey to catch that donkey.

Ginger Hipp (27:33)
Sometimes, there's two types of donkeys. They're the greatest creature on the entire planet and I've said it a thousand times and I will say it until the end of time. If I had known how wonderful donkeys are, I wouldn't even own horses because they are just that good. 99 % of them are no problems. And then you have the small percentage.

Roslyn (27:57)
Yes. Yeah.

Ginger Hipp (27:58)
That just make you just want to just squish them. You're like, why are you the way that you are? And there is, unfortunately, there's nothing you can do with those. Like they are, that is just how they are. And that's just how they're always gonna be. And no amount of training or whatever is gonna change that behavior.

Roslyn (28:17)
That really good to know.

Ginger Hipp (28:19)
99

% of them are wonderful.

Roslyn (28:21)
Yeah, I never I love it. There's that 1 % that one. So that's so funny.

Ginger Hipp (28:28)
I went and got one donkey one time out of she was left out on a huge cattle farm and they you know, they grew hay and sold hay and so this whole this donkey was the largest thing I've ever seen like she was grotesque how big you know her stuff was But they asked me like if I would come and her name was miss Jackie

And so I went to go pick Ms. Jackie up. She had never been haltered. She had never been touched, anything. So we drove the horse trailer out into the trailer, out into the field. And the lady told me that she loved soft peppermints. So I bought one of those big containers of soft peppermints out there. And we started feeding them to her. Well, within like 10 minutes, I had the halter on her and I was like, okay, cool. So we had her up to the horse trailer. It took about two hours, but I...

her into getting onto the horse trailer with self peppermints. She just one little tiny foot at a time little step and she knew every time she went forward to get a peppermint and then it was like right there at the end it clicked in her head and she just stopped running.

Roslyn (29:31)
Yep, they're very interesting. Like I said, there's six. There's one, I love him, his name is Ollie. He's my favorite. And he's my favorite. Well, one, he's got a really big personality and you can tell that he's like the outcast. Cause there's a couple of them that are like Calico and they're like, they're other ones are Jesus donkeys. But Ollie is always out there and he's the one that's messing with everybody. And some of them like pick back at him and then half the time his winker's out. And I'm like, yep, and he's neutered.

Ginger Hipp (29:39)
Okay.

Roslyn (29:59)
But yep, he's just like, that's how his mind still works.

And he wants to play with you one way or play with you another.

Ginger Hipp (30:07)
They are so funny like they are really fun creatures and I do like a lot of sessions with people that have like a lot of anxiety like they love horses they want to be around horses but they're terrified of them and when they try to go to different places for riding lessons it's just too overwhelming they get spooked because you know they just saddle the horse up and throw the person on the air and

and then try to get them to walk trot and canter and they're like terrified the entire time. But really all they really want to do is just hang out with them. And so like, I just bring them out there and we set up chairs and the donkey pen and they just hang out with donkeys the entire time. And the donkeys will practically climb in your lap. Some of them will, I have to be really careful with Lucas, my mammoth, because he will get in your lap and he is entirely too big for that.

and he just thinks you should hold him like a little baby and I'm like, I can't, your ear is bigger than a baby.

Roslyn (31:05)
love it.

Is he the one, does he have white and gray on him? And then his head's taller than yours, but maybe his back is, he's not as tall as a horse.

Ginger Hipp (31:09)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Right yeah, he's that he's roughly around like 13 3 14 hands something like that, but his head is like Almost as long as my torso

Roslyn (31:24)
Yeah, he's so cute. They're so cute. Y'all will have to go find Ginger at, tell them where to find you again.

Ginger Hipp (31:31)
Manzanita farm pretty much on tik tok youtube facebook

Roslyn (31:36)
I love it. That's all that. Is there anybody you want me to channel or anything that you want to know before we we close this out?

Ginger Hipp (31:37)
All those session.

Can you ask Goose, my Boston Terrier, why he keeps constantly throwing his toys behind the couch?

Roslyn (31:52)
he, I think I've seen videos, videos of this. He's light colored.

Ginger Hipp (31:56)
Yes, he's a cream and white Boston and he's deaf and it's 24-7 and but then he looks he wants me to get the toys from behind the couch and but he will look me dead in the eye and drop the toys behind the couch and I want to strangle him.

Roslyn (32:15)
So do you really want to

know why he this?

Ginger Hipp (32:19)
I really

want to know why will he not stop doing this? I need it.

Roslyn (32:22)
That's

how he gets you to play with him. That's the whole thing. He has you.

Ginger Hipp (32:25)
But I

will throw it for him. I like why does he have to keep putting it back there?

Roslyn (32:31)
I

think it's so much fun to like drop it down the hole. That's how he says, I get to drop, look at her and I'm like, and I'm like, and I look at her and I'm like, are you ready? And, and then, and you give him this look of like, what are you, don't you do that? But he thinks that's let's go, let's play. And then he runs up there and he's like, he thinks it's like, drop it down the hole. And it's so much fun. And then he gets to just sit back and like, it's the whole anticipation.

Ginger Hipp (32:42)
Thank

Okay.

you

Roslyn (32:56)
and the work of it all and everything that you have to go through is just like this whole game like, yep, mommy's getting it for me and this is so exciting and I love it because it's down there and I know it's down there and somehow if I could just get it, I would, but she's got to get it, but this is so exciting. It's whole entire game and if he could get it, he would. So if that helps you in any way to figure out another way that he can, maybe you go get a tube.

Ginger Hipp (33:10)
Yes, that's exactly what he does.

Roslyn (33:22)
and paint it dark because there's a darkness about this that he likes that is his on his level. Maybe the tube is at the edge of couch. I don't know. And he drops it and teach him to drop it in the tube and then it falls out the bottom where he could go to the side of the couch and get it. It's almost like dropping a, this is actually a great like TikTok thing. Drop the ball throw.

He would probably be really good at the one that you can drop the ball and throw it then.

Ginger Hipp (33:50)
That's a good idea. Like I might have to get in one of those. Just sit out there and press the button and throw it. He drops the ball and it shoots back out or something like that. I can't teach him nothing.

Roslyn (33:56)
Well, let him teach him. Yeah, teach him to take the ball and put it in the hole so to shoot it.

yes, you can play teach him, not teach him teach him. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's fun though. He enjoys it. Listen, you don't need TV when you have him.

Ginger Hipp (34:05)
He teaches me really well.

I might have to get one of those.

No, you can't watch TV when you have him that's not happening

Roslyn (34:24)
No, no, he keeps you in the moment.

Roslyn (34:26)
Hey guys, I hope you enjoyed this podcast with Ginger from Manzanita Farm. She has Marsh Tackies and donkeys and now she has a horse gifted to her from someone that had passed away and said, Hey Ginger will take her. Don't you just love that as a horse person? So if you have a fun educational story or if you have some horse or dog or cat related

story or business or educational thing that you would like to showcase on this podcast, please reach out to me at Roslyn the Pet Psychic. would love to hear all about it and I'm sure everybody else would too. Have a great day.